A couple of things are going on right now.
A. We have received the raw metal stock for mounting the motor. We are checking and triple checking dimensions for the motor/transmission adapter plate. We hope to water jet the OD, ID and many of the holes yet this week. Then mill and tap the holes next week, and maybe get the motor boss machined next week too.
B. The DMOC adapter controller is under construction and hopefully within the next few days we will get the DMOC programmed and spin the motor to confirm operation before mounting to the transmission.
C. We have been finding the wires in the car that need to be rerouted to the DMOC adapter for I/O
Cruise control
Throttle
Brake pedal
Fuel sensor
Coolant temp
Oil pressure
RPM
Reverse lights
D. We are trying to figure out the CAN bus addresses for several of the instrument panel lights. HELP please!
We are trying to keep the inside of the car as stock functioning and looking as possible.
We are trying to integrate as many systems together as possible to prevent duplicate parts.
The BIG change; we are adding an adapter computer to control the motor, batteries, pumps (steering, cooling, vacuum, heater, A/C).
The adapter is fully programmable (C++) and can control the car via I/O analog, digital, and CAN. The dashboard in the car is CAN.
We plan to use the OEM road speed sensor, locks control, wiper control, radio, airbag control... through the OEM ECM.
We wish to transfer some new outputs from the adapter to the dash: My understanding is that we need to find all the addresses below so the adapter knows where to send the information.
We have looked at the schematic and removed from the list below all the direct non-CAN inputs. So we are looking for the addresses for the following lights in the dash.
to "analog" tach gauge: dial selectable output
motor RPM
current flow output/regen
to MFI digital display: dial selectable output:
scrolling battery cell voltage readout
charge rate
pack total voltage
other adapter outputs...
to ASC/ESP LED
regen mode state on/off
to cruise LED
cruise state on/off
to MIL LED
EITHER ECM or adapter error
to brake system warning LED
vacuum level warning
to glow plug LED
charger still plugged in state
to oil level warning LED
pack pre-charging state
Analog/Digital direct input required, i.e. non-CAN bus input
to fuel "analog" gauge
battery charge state
to fuel low LED, this may be automatically triggered from within the instrument panel based on the fuel gauge reading?
battery low warning
to "analog" coolant temp gauge
coolant temp, scale changed 30-90-150F I think. Instead of x-190-2xx? [Jetta, 97 says a 120ohm resistor should read 90F]
to generator warning LED
DC-DC convertor failure
to oil pressure warning
adapter ready to drive signal, light out = ready to drive.
Thursday, May 26, 2016
Tuesday, May 10, 2016
Water pumps, which one to use and hose routing
We have several water pumps, we need to choose between them and route the lines appropriately.
The motor and motor controller (DMOC) need cooling water, the radiator and heater core are still in the car. We figure we do not want to connect the motor/DMOC to the heater core as during the winter we will want to heat the cabin and not waste heat in the motor/DMOC. The plan is to route radiator > pump> DMOC>motor>radiator, any reason to route otherwise?
For the motor/DMOC we suspect we will want a continuous low flow of coolant to prevent hot spots, but should not need the maximum stated 16L/min continuously. So we have been looking at pump control strategies. The initial plan was a low flow pump always on, with a high flow pump on a temp controlled relay. That was until we noted one of the pumps seems to have signal wires.
Looks like it may be able to CAN communicate and maybe spin at different speeds? But we have not found on the web yet any specifications for it. Help please.
UPDATE [We have learned that this is a CAN controlled pump. The Yellow wire is 12v+, the White is GND.
We have been told the red is LIN, and the blue ASD, but that does not jive with CAN. We have also been told to hold the blue to 12v+ to do a power on test, but that was given by the same informant as the LIN and ASD information which seems incorrect.]
Other choices we have on hand are:
We figure one of the little ones for the heater core, when the heating element is on, the pump is on+a minute or two shut off delay.
The motor and motor controller (DMOC) need cooling water, the radiator and heater core are still in the car. We figure we do not want to connect the motor/DMOC to the heater core as during the winter we will want to heat the cabin and not waste heat in the motor/DMOC. The plan is to route radiator > pump> DMOC>motor>radiator, any reason to route otherwise?
For the motor/DMOC we suspect we will want a continuous low flow of coolant to prevent hot spots, but should not need the maximum stated 16L/min continuously. So we have been looking at pump control strategies. The initial plan was a low flow pump always on, with a high flow pump on a temp controlled relay. That was until we noted one of the pumps seems to have signal wires.
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GMB GEWP200 Size reference, 4" dia. |
Looks like it may be able to CAN communicate and maybe spin at different speeds? But we have not found on the web yet any specifications for it. Help please.
UPDATE [We have learned that this is a CAN controlled pump. The Yellow wire is 12v+, the White is GND.
We have been told the red is LIN, and the blue ASD, but that does not jive with CAN. We have also been told to hold the blue to 12v+ to do a power on test, but that was given by the same informant as the LIN and ASD information which seems incorrect.]
Other choices we have on hand are:
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Size reference, 3.5" dia. |
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Size reference, 4.5" dia. |
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Size reference, 3" dia. |
We figure one of the little ones for the heater core, when the heating element is on, the pump is on+a minute or two shut off delay.
Monday, May 9, 2016
Wiring harness fun, part one of many I am sure.
We have been working on the schematics to determine which wires will be used as-is, which will be re-purposed, and which to get out of the way.
Keep the:
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We found the main computer under the windshield in the center. |
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Engine wiring harness |
engine temp sensor
reverse gear switch
ground speed sensor
engine rpm sensor
A/C relay
Fan relays
Remove the:
MAF
EVAP
Alternator control
Fuel pressure switch
Fuel injector control
Throttle body control...
The pictures will be back to color next update...
General engine bay work
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Removal of exhaust heat shields to access firewall mounting points for battery mounting. |
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Put power steering reservoir back in and looped system. |
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In the center just to the right of the vacuum boost canister is the master clutch port. We got the hard pipe off and need to seal the brake fluid reservoir before pulling the hose out. |
Motor mounting update
The motor mounts have been designed.
outer shape and center hole using a water jet. Most of the holes will be threaded M10 or M12 for either the transmission or motor side bolts. The central boss will be cut on a CNC mill. The near side cut is for the CV joint clearance. The plate will be placed onto the transmission, using a gauge it will be centered and doweled to the transmission. The spline adapter will be mounted to the motor spline and bolted down. The motor will then center on the large central boss and be bolted down.
outer shape and center hole using a water jet. Most of the holes will be threaded M10 or M12 for either the transmission or motor side bolts. The central boss will be cut on a CNC mill. The near side cut is for the CV joint clearance. The plate will be placed onto the transmission, using a gauge it will be centered and doweled to the transmission. The spline adapter will be mounted to the motor spline and bolted down. The motor will then center on the large central boss and be bolted down.
The powertrain will then be placed into the car and aligned with the white plate pre-attached. The top angle iron will be pre-drilled and mounted to the motor mount. The alignment of the angle to the plate will be confirmed and marked. The two parts will be removed welded and bolted together.
The angles extent to the front of the car to allow for mounting the water pump. The total hanging mass should be within a few pounds of the original powertrain weight.
Monday, May 2, 2016
General update
We have been working on several topics simultaneously.
Measuring the bell-housing, schematics for the car, battery, control logic.
We worked out a deal, if we can get it to work, we may measure the bell-housing... It is a very outdated arm, and the power supply was missing and the license for the software expired, but we found parts to make it work.
Above is the point cloud we generated, and then the surfaces we created so we can create the adapter that will go between the transmission and the motor.
We opened the battery with the help of a friend from Wisconsin. We will split the pack into 3 physical groups. The tall group on the right will go under the rear seat, the top groups will go against the firewall, and the lower groups will either be over the motor, or in front of the motor.
The white plates over the right pack are heaters. there are a total of 6 heaters in the pack that we have found so far.
Measuring the bell-housing, schematics for the car, battery, control logic.
We worked out a deal, if we can get it to work, we may measure the bell-housing... It is a very outdated arm, and the power supply was missing and the license for the software expired, but we found parts to make it work.
Above is the point cloud we generated, and then the surfaces we created so we can create the adapter that will go between the transmission and the motor.
We opened the battery with the help of a friend from Wisconsin. We will split the pack into 3 physical groups. The tall group on the right will go under the rear seat, the top groups will go against the firewall, and the lower groups will either be over the motor, or in front of the motor.
The white plates over the right pack are heaters. there are a total of 6 heaters in the pack that we have found so far.
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The pre-charge and main contactor, the white ceramic in-between seems to be the pre-charge resistor. |
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We looked inside the motor controller, those capacitors are about 1.75"x4". The 3 IGBT's are hidden underneath of them, and mounted directly to the large aluminum water-filled cooling housing. |
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The original brake switch and accelerator will be used, we had not realized it was a drive by wire car, this makes things easier. |
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I/O required for the DMOC adapter Charge control is missing? |
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